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Death Messages Poll and Discussion
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Author:  Seaweed [ Wed May 14, 2014 9:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Death Messages Poll and Discussion
Torkmastaflex wrote:
HERE COMES THE TORK!!!!!!!

But seriously. I like no messages but it will only shine if spawn selection is removed. On the issue of "Study Body", It can be hard if 3 of us are shooting 3 guys, one dies, and runs back in 15 minutes to continue a fight when we have no idea who we just killed is in that 15 minutes. Also, i have less resentment finding out who we are fighting and then get killed by the squad fighting us.

One last note, Sorry Damp :) No hard feelings?


Spawn selection is going soon too, see my comments above.
Author:  Daisy [ Wed May 14, 2014 11:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Death Messages Poll and Discussion
In this new system, can a hero shoot a player and proceed to not study the body so they wont get any humanity loss? If this is the case, i think this would be rather wierd.
Maybe keep the "unconfirmed kill" idea, but leave the humanity on the debug meny, as it is now.
Author:  Seaweed [ Wed May 14, 2014 11:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Death Messages Poll and Discussion
Daisy wrote:
In this new system, can a hero shoot a player and proceed to not study the body so they wont get any humanity loss? If this is the case, i think this would be rather wierd.
Maybe keep the "unconfirmed kill" idea, but leave the humanity on the debug meny, as it is now.


I'm thinking about either leaving it as is, but delaying it changing so you don't know when they have died, or only giving half when you kill someone and the rest after studying. Haven't actually had a chance to start coding anything yet though.
Author:  RadX [ Wed May 14, 2014 12:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Death Messages Poll and Discussion
Can we also get a fake-death animation? :) Realistically you should be able to pretend to fall to the ground (and it would be cool if I could wear soldier clothing and pretend to walk like a zombie )
Author:  Seaweed [ Wed May 14, 2014 12:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Death Messages Poll and Discussion
RadX wrote:
Can we also get a fake-death animation? :) Realistically you should be able to pretend to fall to the ground (and it would be cool if I could wear soldier clothing and pretend to walk like a zombie )


Might be possible to code a feign death option somewhere yeah but don't really know till I try and code it. I'll add it to my list of things to try next time I'm bored.
Author:  Smurf [ Wed May 14, 2014 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Death Messages Poll and Discussion
Not sure what to vote, death messages off is a great idea - studying to verify not so much. I have played alot on zombies, and everyone was a hero no matter how many they killed.
Author:  Seaweed [ Wed May 14, 2014 4:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Death Messages Poll and Discussion
Smurf wrote:
Not sure what to vote, death messages off is a great idea - studying to verify not so much. I have played alot on zombies, and everyone was a hero no matter how many they killed.


The poll is strictly speaking about the death messages, future changes can have their own polls if they are controversial.
Author:  tomisafish [ Wed May 14, 2014 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Death Messages Poll and Discussion
Me and the boys were thinking that you could put death messages on a random delay with a set minimum. That way it would make the server seem "more alive" without compromising combat and stuff.

I'm not too sure how that would fare in practice however.
Author:  Arfour [ Wed May 14, 2014 7:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Death Messages Poll and Discussion
I really like them turned off, it adds to the immersion. But is there any chance to enhance the results of studying a body? In my humble experience it is pretty badly bugged at the moment. It almost always tells you that someone died from a gunshot to the head, or nothing at all. (I.e. "It appeares he died from" Period.)

Would it be able to let you more or less see from what kind of weapon someone died? It would clearly be rubbish to see who shot whom with what kind of gun, but you could clearly distinguish small arms fire, a hit with a hatchet or a gunshot wound by 7.62mm rounds. Or a proper "was eaten by zombies. Poor sucker."
Author:  Vidarro [ Wed May 14, 2014 8:21 pm ]
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I see what the poll says, but i also notice a drop in player count.. 16 last time i checked now.. Usually the server is pretty full at this time i think? Might be a coincidense of course, but i recon u are monitoring this as well admin ;)
Author:  Investoren [ Wed May 14, 2014 9:55 pm ]
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I dont really care the either way tbh. Removing - more realism bla bla, yes, I agree. But its a video game afterall as well. All you seek is fun. I didnt join zerosurvival or dayz in general to play cuz of the survival aspect. Then I would have tried to find another server a long time ago, or allready quit the main server and started to play on hardcore server instead.
I play this game and on this server cuz of the action. Deathmessages provides paranoia and action. If I see "Testo was killed" 2 secs after I fired my crossbow, I prob know there are more players around and more action to come asap.

After a few days without deathmessages, ive come to the conclusion I rather wanna keep it.

About spawn selection, just remove it allready :P
Author:  Seaweed [ Thu May 15, 2014 11:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Death Messages Poll and Discussion
Vidarro wrote:
I see what the poll says, but i also notice a drop in player count.. 16 last time i checked now.. Usually the server is pretty full at this time i think? Might be a coincidense of course, but i recon u are monitoring this as well admin ;)


Player numbers fluctuate all the time, and we've had quieter nights than last night in the last 6 weeks. The player count on the main server has been generally declining since the hardcore server was added, unconnected to this change. I've never said this is a permanent change but I'm not making snap decisions based on the player count over a couple of nights.
Author:  Benuar [ Thu May 15, 2014 3:26 pm ]
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I must say i would not mind a timer on the deathmassages and the change in debug eigher. 15 mins should be more then enough for a proper fight and even if you are camping someone after 15 mins you will not benefit from the info to much.

Regarding the fake death animation: fuck yeah!
Author:  Seaweed [ Fri May 16, 2014 6:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Death Messages Poll and Discussion
Death messages will be back after next restart, whilst I think most of the regular players are in favor of them being disabled I agree with you guys that it makes the server seem more quiet, and maybe even gives fresh logins who don't realize they are disabled a false impression.
Author:  redeagle [ Fri May 16, 2014 11:26 pm ]
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Seaweed wrote:
...it makes the server seem more quiet, and maybe even gives fresh logins who don't realize they are disabled a false impression.


JSRS could also fix that! :D

But seriously cant you inform people by BE message that they are disabled?
Author:  Seaweed [ Fri May 16, 2014 11:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Death Messages Poll and Discussion
redeagle wrote:
Seaweed wrote:
...it makes the server seem more quiet, and maybe even gives fresh logins who don't realize they are disabled a false impression.


JSRS could also fix that! :D

But seriously cant you inform people by BE message that they are disabled?


JSRS requires CBA which breaks basebuilding unfortunately. We had a message repeating the last 2 days mentioning they were disabled, logins are definitely down on before though.
Author:  tomisafish [ Sat May 17, 2014 9:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Death Messages Poll and Discussion
While I am an advocator for the disabled death message for excitement and realism reasons I'm more than happy to go with whatever will keep player count high.
Author:  VidKo [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Death Messages Poll and Discussion
Disable death messages and make it so, that you have to check the body to get a confirmed kill in the statistics.
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